(I’m not a native English speaker, plz forgive my poor express.)
In this topic I want to proof Hoplite skill Stabbing, even in level 5, is really a good skill for fencer.
So at least choose Hoplite c1(if you dont like to swap weapon) is really a good choice.
Now is the proof & compare:
Suppose you have atk 1000 at least(PATK+BUFF+property atk+enhance…), which is really easy to hit.
As known to all, Fencer have onc chance to burst with Preparation(every 35s).
now we have 3 skill
skillatk hit
Stabbing(lv5) 165 15
Sept Etoiles(lv15) 524 7
Fleche(lv5) 2542 3
damge1(basic damge)
Stabbing=(165+1000)*15=17475
Sept Etoiles=(524+1000)*7=10668
Fleche=(2542+1000)*3=10626
in basic damge stabbing win, but stabbing will take 2~3s to use, so not really
overwhelming.
damge2(with Preparation)
Stabbing=(165+1000)* 15*2=34950
Sept Etoiles=(524+1000)*8 *2=24384
Fleche=(2542+1000) *3 *2=21252
stabbing win with more damage difference.
damge3(preparation& 100 attribute)
Stabbing=(165+1000) * 1522=69900
Sept Etoiles=(524+1000) * 722=48768
Fleche=(2542+1000) * 322=42504
still stabbing win, and stabbing is a r3 skill which means more cheap for attribute.
damge4(dmg3 +spare lung )
if you go to Hoplite C2, you can use Spare lung for burst.
Spare lung’s damge ratio is not exactly known to me, so just use 1.5
Stabbing=(165+1000) * 15221.5=104850
Sept Etoiles=(524+1000) * 721.5=73152
Fleche=(2542+1000) * 32*1.5=63756
well, the difference now is significant with 40k more damge without consider crit( which make more huge damge diff in fancer3)
So, i can say stabbing and Hoplite is really help for fancer when dealing with boss in dun and WB.
If you dont like to swap weapon, just get Hoplite c1 and go whatever rank you like, stabbing is really helpfu.
what’s more, with stabbing,there is no reason to add Sept Etoile more than level 1.
If you have any opinion, just tell me below.
and if you guys think stabbing is really good for fencer, i can list some considerable build with Hoplite c1 or c2.
All my logic is already shown.
And I will reorganize all of these here to prevent the endless argument.(But it’s really helpful to my English communication )
0: Do whatever you like!
1.Q:Stabbing is not so power now or in the future.
A:[quote=“rhonin.wang, post:73, topic:324608”]
prep+stabbing is really a powerful skill combo(show upper).Besides you can also use sept etoiles after stabbing.
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If you think you have enough pierce skill or really like to use other type skill or Attaque Compose then return 0.
2.Q: Is it Hop1 worth to loss the chance of Hl3 and Barb3?
A:
To deal with this, compare with the skill Barb3 and HL3 to Hop1 is needed.
I have shown my opinon of HL3 skill and Barb3.
And Pouncing has soooo long cooldown.
You can get Frenzy, Warcry and Seism at barb2 but will lose some damage.
For these skill:
Seism is good aoe skill.
If you really like Barb3 or Hl3 or think what i said is wrong, return 0.
3.Q: Fencer is lack of Aoe ability.
A:
if you really want to make up Aoe ability.Beside Seism:
And IMO:[quote=“rhonin.wang, post:58, topic:324608, full:true”]
The reason why i dont care about fencer’s aoe ability is because of the role fencer is in pve.When cleaning mobs in grinding and dungeon, you are an evasion tank supplying taunt. You will never have the aoe capability that comparable to wizard and archer.(and no one care your aoe ability)
WB, dungeon boss, Siaulai is the real place you can be a dps.
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If you think you need pouncing or only 10 lvl Seism can make up your aoe ability, just return 0.
4.Q:Fencer need more types of damage skill.
No, i think fencer has many powerful pierce skills and pierce buff and pierce debuff and pierce attribute. I dont need other type skills at all. Even dealing with plate enemy(little high damage strike skills) and even with Epee no longer has 100% uptime.
If you think multiple damage skills is important, you can choose barb2 or hl2 or corsair or return 0.
5.Q:Stabbing is hard to use/ some boss is always running.
A: yes, and pouncing is also hard to use if you want to take full damage.
How to use and when to use is depending on you.
If you think stabbing is not suit for you, plz return 0.
If there are other questions i didn’t cover, just tell me, i may add.
In this forum, people always think stabbing and Hop awful to fencer.
But in the forum of Taiwan and China, barb3-fencer has little supporters.
This forum needs more different voice. The reason you are not a hop-fencer cant be the reason i dont like it.
I tried to use a barb-fencer and abandoned in barb3. Everyone has their prefer and the people want to play fencer need more voices.
I really like this guide,this guide make me begin thinking of Hop.
But @minjuleex stop updating, maybe becaues without supporter.
